wetland spirits and night spirits
Vladyslava's Kupala story
continues in Trubaitsi:
wetland spirits and night spirits, the video podcast
we recorded on our visit to the village of Trubaitsi in
August 2025. We sat by the edge of the boloto, the wetland
beyond the house where her grandparents used to live.
After talking about how the village and the nature
surrounding it shaped her, she reflected on how it had
changed. Then the conversation turned from the
peacefulness of the daytime boloto to the noise of war in
the sky the night before, and why such places must not be
seized from the people who belong to them.
We talked about spirits to help us put our thoughts and
feelings into words: this is an example of how people use
folklore to meet their present-day needs, one of our
project's key themes.
Here are some moments from our conversation. You can
watch the whole podcast on YouTube
or Spotify.
There are audio-only versions on Apple
and Amazon
/ Audible.
Vladyslava Bondar and Marek Kohn
The village and the boloto
How the boloto has changed
The boloto has become smaller, because parts of it
have been taken for growing crops, and it was
damaged by fire early in 2025.
Vlada: 'To my eye it's not as beautiful as it could
have been without the fire. We used to have reeds that
were higher than me, and really beautiful trees here,
and the frogs would be croaking, and the birds would
be singing. But it's still amazing and I'm so so glad
to be here.'
Interview with a spirit
Vlada: 'Coming here with my two British friends, I
feel like I'm being interviewed as Rusalka, as a
nature spirit, by people with microphones, cameras,
phones. And it is a really interesting feeling,
because I do feel like I belong to this place, and so
connected with this nature. It's an honour, actually,
talking about boloto, about wetlands, about forests
and about Ukrainian relations with nature spirits.
'We also had some air spirits tonight, but those
spirits were not as nice.'
Demons in the night
What I heard was a succession of drones passing
overhead, and in the morning I was woken by the
sound of cruise missiles exploding in the city of
Kremenchuk 90km away. I went straight out to the
boloto and recorded the peaceful sounds of the
countryside that you can hear at the beginning of
our video.
In a safe place, but not at peace
'We always talk about safe places in Ukraine, but even
in those safe places you will still hear the sounds
and explosions and sirens, and you can't really feel
truly relaxed and at peace here.'
Don't tell us to give this up
To foreigners who argue that territories should be
given up in order to get a peace settlement:
'Just tell me which of your territories we need to
give them. You want to give them your house? You're
very, very [expletive deleted] welcome. Don't
make us give our childhood and our families and our
houses and our fields and our bolotos, because
something's wrong with this. A lot of things are so
wrong with this.'